Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: mathlib4
Topic: Klein 4 group PR relying on `decide := true` for `simp`
Scott Morrison (Nov 11 2023 at 00:11):
We've recently changed the default behaviour for simp so that it no longer calls decide. This is now regularly causing breakages on nightly-testing.
The most recent one is @Newell Jensen's PR #7937 which was just merged.
I've patched it on nightly-testing to change to calls to simp to simp (config := {decide := true}).
So two things:
- @Newell Jensen (or any one else) might want to have a look at this and decide if there is a better approach.
- All reviewers might keep an eye out for
simpcalls that are likely to be relying ondecide, and either change them tosimp (config := {decide := true})for future proofing, or use a different approach.
Newell Jensen (Nov 11 2023 at 00:23):
Since this was recently changed I would have seen this if I had merged master or is this only on the nightly testing?
Scott Morrison (Nov 11 2023 at 00:23):
Unfortunately it is only nightly-testing, so no way for you to have foreseen this!
Scott Morrison (Nov 11 2023 at 00:24):
We're still learning how to manage nightly-testing, and I think today's lesson (this is just one of many examples of incoming PRs breaking nightly-testing) is that we are going to need to resynchronize more often.
Scott Morrison (Nov 11 2023 at 00:24):
I will probably cut a v4.3.0-rc2 version of Lean in the next couple of days.
Newell Jensen (Nov 11 2023 at 00:28):
What was the motivation to changesimp in this way? Was it so that usage of decide would be more atomic?
Scott Morrison (Nov 11 2023 at 00:31):
When simp fails to close a goal, sometimes it would launch very expensive attempts to decide the goal, that were not intended.
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