Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: mathlib4
Topic: Simplicity of alternating groups
Stepan Nesterov (Feb 19 2026 at 00:41):
Was there a previous attempt to prove that is a simple group for in Mathlib (e.g. is this a PR somewhere)?
If not, I would be happy to claim the task.
Bryan Wang (Feb 19 2026 at 00:46):
Maybe #mathlib4 > (Another) proof of alternating group A_n is simple?
Stepan Nesterov (Feb 19 2026 at 00:51):
So a bunch of people have proofs locally, but no PR to mathlib was made?
Vlad Tsyrklevich (Feb 19 2026 at 02:29):
There’s an open PR, you can find it by searching for “alternating” in the mathlib PRs
Filippo A. E. Nuccio (Feb 19 2026 at 09:33):
@Antoine Chambert-Loir
Michael Rothgang (Feb 19 2026 at 09:39):
There are in fact at least two mathlib PRs about this, #26051 and #33082. (This answers the question above, sorry.)
Miyahara Kō (Feb 19 2026 at 09:47):
#26051 is my PR, but since #33082 is more refined, I plan to split off the defs and lemmas from #26051 that were useful for my proofs, and then close it.
Snir Broshi (Feb 20 2026 at 12:23):
(btw already exists, docs#alternatingGroup.isSimpleGroup_five)
Antoine Chambert-Loir (Feb 20 2026 at 21:41):
Indeed. Once the general proof I proposed is merged (and if it is), I will write a PR that moves the initial proof for to the archive.
Antoine Chambert-Loir (Feb 20 2026 at 21:42):
unless this is @Miyahara Kō that is merged—as far as I understand, it builds on the proof for .
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