Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: mathlib4
Topic: infinite series
Quinn (Oct 04 2024 at 13:45):
i'm having a lot of trouble doing a simple \Sigma_{t \in \nat}
. lsp looks up sigma type / existential quantifier when I ask it to explain the \Sigma
symbol, and i've been reading mathlib docs for almost an hour searching
Quinn (Oct 04 2024 at 14:05):
specifically, I have a proposition on two series u and w, u conv or w div
Quinn (Oct 04 2024 at 14:57):
why can't i find the function in mathlib that takes functions nat -> R
and sends them to ENNReal
(simulating taking the sum)? i guess it's not necessarily computable in general (more of a computer algebra problem, anyway) but i feel like i shoudl be able to write it down noncomputationally
Yaël Dillies (Oct 04 2024 at 14:58):
docs#tsum sounds like what you want
Quinn (Oct 04 2024 at 15:26):
ah yeah ! that got me much closer.
i'm still not there, because i need to be able to reason about being less than T : ENNReal
(top/infintiy) vs being equal to that
Jireh Loreaux (Oct 04 2024 at 15:47):
docs#Summable f
where f : ℕ → ℝ
.
Jireh Loreaux (Oct 04 2024 at 15:49):
If you want ℝ≥0∞
-valued things, then maybe you want ∑' n : ℕ, (‖f n‖₊ : ℝ≥0∞)
. This will be the sum of the absolute value sequence, as an ℝ≥0∞
. Whether this value is ∞
or not corresponds to whether or not f
is Summable
.
Jireh Loreaux (Oct 04 2024 at 15:53):
the file Mathlib.Analysis.Normed.Group.InfiniteSum
has some results of this nature.
Jireh Loreaux (Oct 04 2024 at 16:02):
There's also docs#ENNReal.tsum_coe_ne_top_iff_summable
Jireh Loreaux (Oct 04 2024 at 16:02):
@loogle Summable (fun x : ?i ↦ ‖?f x‖₊)
loogle (Oct 04 2024 at 16:02):
:shrug: nothing found
Jireh Loreaux (Oct 04 2024 at 16:03):
@Joachim Breitner do you know why this doesn't return docs#Summable.of_nnnorm ?
Joachim Breitner (Oct 07 2024 at 09:32):
Without deep investigation, if I’d have to guess, probably https://github.com/nomeata/loogle/issues/18
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