Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: mathlib4

Topic: second partial derivative test


Johannes Riesterer (Nov 02 2024 at 13:57):

Hello,

is there a formalisation of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_partial_derivative_test

thanks in advance

Johannes

Yury G. Kudryashov (Nov 02 2024 at 14:01):

No

Patrick Massot (Nov 02 2024 at 14:01):

You should search zulip for second derivative test.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Nov 02 2024 at 14:01):

(AFAIK)

Patrick Massot (Nov 02 2024 at 14:01):

I am sure there was a recent conversation about it.

Johannes Riesterer (Nov 02 2024 at 14:31):

ok thanks for your help

Bjørn Kjos-Hanssen (Nov 02 2024 at 23:32):

I have a new pull request for it the single-variable version: #18266 I formalized exactly the proof given in Wikipedia (which is better than e.g. what is found in common textbooks like Stewart and Thomas).

Patrick Massot (Nov 03 2024 at 10:43):

@Bjørn Kjos-Hanssen ☀️ could you clarify whether this is still a draft or ready for review?

Bjørn Kjos-Hanssen (Nov 03 2024 at 15:49):

I'll say ready for review at this point.

Johannes Riesterer (Nov 03 2024 at 16:05):

this is for one dimensional functions , or? Is there also a proof for higher dimensions?

Bjørn Kjos-Hanssen (Nov 03 2024 at 16:15):

Yes, it is for 1-dimensional functions over ℝ. It's starting from monotoneOn_of_deriv_nonneg which is at that level of generality. It would be great if someone generalizes it further.

Johannes Riesterer (Nov 03 2024 at 16:48):

Ok, thank you. I will try to do it but i don't know if i will proceed. seems challanging somehow :-) .

Johannes Riesterer (Nov 03 2024 at 16:49):

maybe if you can help here and there would be great....

Bjørn Kjos-Hanssen (Nov 03 2024 at 16:59):

I agree it seems challenging! To get started, there are some Zulip threads about partial derivatives.


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