Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: mathlib4

Topic: what does doset even mean


Kevin Buzzard (Oct 20 2024 at 14:11):

I recently discovered that mathlib has docs#Doset.doset . Can anyone guess what it means without clicking? I propose we rename it to what mathematicians call it. Or is this standard terminology? I'd never heard of it.

Edward van de Meent (Oct 20 2024 at 14:19):

even reading the spoiler i couldn't figure it out, i had to go to the docs and expand the equation... i agree we should call it what mathematicians call it (unless of course there is a clearer way to express the concept)

Damiano Testa (Oct 20 2024 at 14:40):

I agree that it should be called what the spoiler says: without context (and maybe even with context!), I would have never guessed its meaning.

Eric Wieser (Oct 20 2024 at 14:45):

Maybe this should be a new threshold for whether mathlib should have something; introduce it with a silly name, and if no one complains within 3 years then maybe mathlib didn't need it after all!

Kevin Buzzard (Oct 20 2024 at 14:49):

I need it for FLT, and that was how I discovered it!

Damiano Testa (Oct 20 2024 at 14:50):

And given that Chris authored the file, I imagine that they wanted it for similar reasons!

Kevin Buzzard (Oct 20 2024 at 14:51):

Yes, we're both thinking about Hecke operators right now.

Eric Wieser (Oct 20 2024 at 14:54):

(I was kidding, I don't think mathlib should be pruned of things that no one currently wants)

Johan Commelin (Oct 21 2024 at 13:33):

I confess that I know what a Doset.doset is, without looking at the spoiler...

Johan Commelin (Oct 21 2024 at 13:34):

But I reviewed the PR that introduced it... so maybe you should take this data point with a grain of salt

Ben Eltschig (Oct 22 2024 at 01:42):

Eric Wieser said:

Maybe this should be a new threshold for whether mathlib should have something; introduce it with a silly name, and if no one complains within 3 years then maybe mathlib didn't need it after all!

I know you were kidding, but I'd still like to mention that they find use in the construction of universal orbifold coverings too, so I will need them if/when I get to formalising that. I don't think I would have easily found them under that name though, if I hadn't seen this post...


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