Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: FLT
Topic: Deformation rings
Junyan Xu (May 12 2025 at 14:29):
FLT#481 now builds, and only the docBlame/simpNF linters report errors. I count 67 sorrys and 11 #exits in the PR: one #exit (in FLT/Deformation/Algebra/InverseLimit/Topology.lean) is marked "this is the old version", and most #exits are at the beginning of the file. Are all these files to be abandoned? Should we fill sorrys in all remaining files? Are there blueprint chapter/section(s) corresponding to this PR?
Notification Bot (May 12 2025 at 15:09):
A message was moved here from #Is there code for X? > CompleteGroupAlgebra by Kevin Buzzard.
Kevin Buzzard (May 12 2025 at 15:13):
@Junyan Xu I've moved the discussion to here. Right now @Andrew Yang is going to take a look at the branch (he was involved in writing some of it but mostly it was not his work). The "big goal" is to state and then prove the kind of representability results which Wiles and others use, i.e. if is a fixed totally real field and is a finite field of characteristic and is a continuous irreducible representation and we consider "nice" deformations to Artin local -algebras with residue field (here "nice" will one day mean things like "unramified outside a finite set of places, flat at and with cyclotomic determinant" but initially it will mean "deformations satisfying a predicate which obeys a list of axioms") then this functor is prorepresentable.
Kevin Buzzard (May 12 2025 at 15:14):
My understanding is that the proposal is to follow Lenstra's proof in Cornell-Silverman-Stevens which first proves a result for finite; I think that this was as far as the PR got.
Kevin Buzzard (May 19 2025 at 08:58):
@Junyan Xu @Jz Pan Andrew now got Javier's work on deformation rings compiling again. Is there anything here you have any comments on? There is IsProartinian, Deformation.repnFunctor, subfunctors and more! The review process is nothing like mathlib's -- basically I will read through this stuff and merge it rather than debating for a long time whether definitions are "the best for mathlib", I'm happy to be more experimental.
Jz Pan (May 19 2025 at 09:02):
Kevin Buzzard said:
Junyan Xu Jz Pan Andrew now got Javier's work on deformation rings compiling again. Is there anything here you have any comments on? There is
IsProartinian,Deformation.repnFunctor, subfunctors and more! The review process is nothing like mathlib's -- basically I will read through this stuff and merge it rather than debating for a long time whether definitions are "the best for mathlib", I'm happy to be more experimental.
Not yet; I'm busying with other things. Maybe I'll take a look later.
By the way, does the deformation rings theory use completed group algebra like ?
Jz Pan (May 19 2025 at 09:03):
I remembered that there are at least formal power series.
Kevin Buzzard (May 19 2025 at 11:34):
These completed group algebras are the answers to questions. For example the universal deformation ring of the trivial mod p 1-dimensional representation of is isomorphic to
Jz Pan (May 19 2025 at 11:38):
But you don't need to use the fact that it is isomorphic to ?
Andrew Yang (May 19 2025 at 11:39):
The new PR is FLT#504 by the way.
Last updated: Dec 20 2025 at 21:32 UTC