Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: Equational
Topic: Asymptotics for number of isomorphism types
Stanley Burris (Apr 30 2025 at 23:40):
Since idemprimal algebras are rigid, and almost all magmas are idemprimal, the number of isomorphism types of magmas on n elements is asymptotic to n^{n^2}/n!
Perhaps this adds some precision to the comment in section 1 of the blueprint about the number of isomorphism types growing more slowly than the number of magmas.
Stanley Burris (May 02 2025 at 18:35):
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Terence Tao (May 02 2025 at 20:54):
Thanks, I've uploaded a revision that incorporates this observation.
Stanley Burris (May 04 2025 at 10:38):
The asymptotics n^{n^2}/n! for the number of isomorphism types of magmas on n elements once again looks fine to me after recalling a 1990 result of Ralph Freese that the labelled and unlabelled probabilities of algebraic properties of magmas both exist and are the same if one of them exists. Murskii showed the unlabelled probability of being rigid was 1.
Reference: Ralph Freese. On the two kinds of probability in algebra. Algebra
Universalis, 27(1):70–79, 1990.
A rather complicated formula for the precise number of isomorphism types was published by Michael A. Harrison as Theorem 4 of his paper "The number of isomorphism types of finite algebras", Proc. Amer. Math. Soc. 17 (1966), 731-737.
KKKKK (May 06 2025 at 05:01):
https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.00269v2.
Stanley Burris (May 11 2025 at 00:47):
This preprint will certainly be useful for those working on k-magmas with k>2. For 2-magmas (i.e, magmas) evidently Harrison's formula is correct.
Stanley Burris (May 13 2025 at 02:34):
A brief write-up of proofs for
(1) almost all finite magmas are rigid, and
(2) asymptotics for the number of isomorphism types of finite magmas
is available at my PR.
Also in my PR there are corrected LaTeX and PDF files for the formula for counting the number of magma of size n. The Blueprint subsection 1.1. (Alternate Formula) on this was corrected recently, but the link at the end of the subsection is to the old flawed LaTeX and PDF files in the scripts folder. (The Maple program was always correct.)
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