Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: toric
Topic: Group algebras
Yaël Dillies (Apr 04 2025 at 06:48):
In Toric.Hopf.MonoidAlgebra
, we are currently using docs#MonoidAlgebra. Shouldn't we rather be using docs#AddMonoidAlgebra since our groups in the end are additive?
Yaël Dillies (Apr 04 2025 at 06:48):
I also know MonoidAlgebra
and AddMonoidAlgebra
don't have the same Hopf structure. Which one do we want?
Paul Lezeau (Apr 04 2025 at 09:20):
I think docs#AddMonoidAlgebra would be quite reasonable - if only for the nice R[M]
notation
Paul Lezeau (Apr 04 2025 at 09:20):
Yaël Dillies said:
I also know
MonoidAlgebra
andAddMonoidAlgebra
don't have the same Hopf structure. Which one do we want?
Not sure about this though!
Yaël Dillies (Apr 04 2025 at 18:49):
I've just duplicated all declarations and called it a day
Sophie Morel (Apr 05 2025 at 13:51):
Speaking of group algebras, it seems that the first thing I have fill out is the sorry
on line 19 of the file Toric.GroupScheme.Diagonalizable
, i.e. the fact that Spec
of a group algebra is a group scheme (over the base ring). It seems natural to prove more generally that Spec
of a R
-Hopf algebra is a group scheme over Spec R
, is this done yet? I could not find anything but did not want to assume.
Sophie Morel (Apr 05 2025 at 13:52):
Last time we looked at this problem (with Amelia) was in May 2024, and some needed results about Hopf algebras were not available.
Yaël Dillies (Apr 05 2025 at 14:03):
Yes it is. This is part of the correspondence between Hopf algebras and group schemes that we've just completed.
Yaël Dillies (Apr 05 2025 at 14:04):
You want to use hopfSpec
in Toric.GroupScheme.HopfAffine
Sophie Morel (Apr 05 2025 at 14:07):
Yoohoo!
Yaël Dillies (Apr 05 2025 at 14:08):
Actually, that sorry
on L. 19 of Toric.GroupScheme.Diagonalizable
seems completely out of date! You should be able to just remove it, by importing some other Toric files
Sophie Morel (Apr 05 2025 at 14:09):
I'll try that, as soon as my vscode is done compiling some files.
Sophie Morel (Apr 05 2025 at 14:24):
Yup, we're good, the definition of diagonalizable groups now compiles! Now I just need to actually prove stuff about them (= the easy part :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: ).
Sophie Morel (Apr 05 2025 at 14:30):
I created a branch but I don't have push permission to your repository. Should I create a fork?
Michał Mrugała (Apr 05 2025 at 14:31):
@Yaël Dillies could you give Sophie perms?
Yaël Dillies (Apr 05 2025 at 14:31):
Whoops, yes, what is your GitHub handle? (and please add it to your Zulip profile!)
Sophie Morel (Apr 05 2025 at 14:33):
Added! (It's smorel394.)
Yaël Dillies (Apr 05 2025 at 14:33):
Voilà : https://github.com/YaelDillies/Toric/invitations
Sophie Morel (Apr 05 2025 at 14:36):
I pushed to master!? I'm so sorry, I was sure I had switched branches! I'll do that now.
Yaël Dillies (Apr 05 2025 at 14:37):
:scream: Don't worry, it's fine. You certainly wouldn't catch me breaking the build by hastily pushing to master... right? :sweat:
Yaël Dillies (Apr 05 2025 at 14:38):
Btw hopfSpec
is composed with the group algebra functor in specCommGrpAlgebra
. You can use this functor directly if you want
Yaël Dillies (Apr 05 2025 at 14:39):
Maybe IsDiagonalisable
should be made an abbrev
of specCommGrpAlgebra.essImage
, actually?
Sophie Morel (Apr 05 2025 at 14:41):
Well, there's the "finitely generated" condition on the commutative group.
Yaël Dillies (Apr 05 2025 at 14:42):
Ah right, of course. But the idea is the same: we could define it as the essential image of an appropriate functor. Probably this will save us some boilerplate down the line
Sophie Morel (Apr 05 2025 at 14:52):
Sorry, all productive work interrupted, I'm trying to convince git that I do NOT want to push to master every time...
Kevin Buzzard (Apr 05 2025 at 21:28):
With FLT I just make everyone PR from forks. Why not do that here?
Michał Mrugała (Apr 05 2025 at 21:40):
Is there an advantage to PRing from forks instead of using branches?
Yaël Dillies (Apr 06 2025 at 07:12):
I can always set a branch protection rule on master. I just haven't yet found the need to do so
Edward van de Meent (Apr 06 2025 at 11:27):
don't these events clearly indicate a need?
Yaël Dillies (Apr 06 2025 at 11:29):
Well, nothing broke, so :shrug:
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