Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: mathlib4
Topic: Naming: ne_zero vs nonzero
Jovan Gerbscheid (Sep 02 2025 at 21:47):
Both ne_zero and nonzero are used as spellings for _ ≠ 0. Is this a problem, and do we have a preferred option?
Etienne Marion (Sep 02 2025 at 21:48):
I think ne_zero is better.
Ruben Van de Velde (Sep 03 2025 at 08:12):
Found 323 declarations whose name contains "nonzero". :scream:
Ruben Van de Velde (Sep 03 2025 at 08:12):
Though a fair number of false positives
Ruben Van de Velde (Sep 03 2025 at 08:13):
Most of them, even
Robin Arnez (Sep 03 2025 at 08:13):
I think
@loogle "ne_zero", _ ≠ 0
loogle (Sep 03 2025 at 08:13):
:search: Nat.succ_ne_zero, Nat.one_ne_zero, and 1488 more
Damiano Testa (Sep 03 2025 at 08:14):
$ (git grep "\(theorem\|lemma\|inductive\|structure\|def\|class\|instance\|alias\|abbrev\) [^ ]*nonzero" *) | wc
91 1252 11655
Robin Arnez (Sep 03 2025 at 08:14):
is clearly more popular than
@loogle "nonzero", _ ≠ 0
loogle (Sep 03 2025 at 08:14):
:search: Int.natAbs_sign_of_nonzero, Int.sign_ofNat_of_nonzero, and 137 more
Ruben Van de Velde (Sep 03 2025 at 08:16):
I'll fix the three Int ones now
Ruben Van de Velde (Sep 03 2025 at 08:19):
Oh, the first two are in core. I'll fix the one
Damiano Testa (Sep 03 2025 at 08:19):
I didn't know that docs#List.nonzeroMinimum existed.
Markus Himmel (Sep 03 2025 at 08:21):
This seems to be an implementation detail of the omega tactic, it should be moved out of the List namespace.
Kim Morrison (Sep 04 2025 at 06:26):
Last updated: Dec 20 2025 at 21:32 UTC